In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to Colm Walsh, co-manager of the ICG Enterprise Trust (ICGT), and Emma Bird, head of investment trust research and specialist property analyst at Winterflood Securities. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.
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Continuing consolidation

0:01:26 – This week’s guests
0:02:06 – Review of the week
0:04:53 – Corporate news and announcements
0:12:33 – Summary of results
0:15:51 – Money Makers Circle
0:16:48 – Q&A with Colm Walsh
0:18:28 – Putting shareholder interests first
0:19:19 – Mid-market private equity
0:21:27 – Why large discounts exist
0:24:02 – Fees in private equity
0:25:51 – Consequences of sharp interest rate rises
0:30:41 – The risk of recession
0:36:08 – The trust’s dividend
0:41:36 – Q&A with Emma Bird
0:44:24 – Relative dividend yields compared to gilts
0:45:45 – Likelihood of a recession
0:46:34 – Mergers and acquisitions
0:49:41 – Poor performers
0:51:03 – Dividend sustainability
0:53:31 – Five-year performance
0:55:12 – Warehouse REITs
0:57:11 – The role of asset management
0:58:58 – Share buybacks
01:00:24 – The potential for a recovery in share prices
01:01:24 – Healthcare REITs
01:03:55 – Long-lease REITs
01:05:16 – Commercial property sector discounts overall
1:06:08 – Close
Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:
- GCP Infrastructure (GCP)
- GCP Asset Backed Income Fund (GABI)
- RM Infrastructure Income (RMII)
- Nippon Active Value (NAVF)
- Atlantis Japan Growth (AJG)
- Abrdn Japan (AJIT)
- Murray International (MYI)
- US Solar Fund (USF)
- Round Hill Music Royalty Fund (RHM)
- Baillie Gifford US Growth (USA)
- Diverse Income Trust (DIVI)
- JPMorgan American (JAM)
- JPMorgan Claverhouse (JCH)
- Impact Healthcare REIT (IHR)
- Syncona (SYNC)
- Foresight Solar Fund (FSFL)
- Octopus Renewables Infrastructure Trust (ORIT)
- Aquila European Renewables Income Trust (AERS)
- Ecofin US Renewables Infrastructure (RNEW)
- Pantheon International (PIN)
- AEW UK REIT (AEWU)
- Abrdn Property Income (API)
- Balanced Commercial Property Trust (BCPT)
- CT Property Trust (CTPT)
- Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC)
- Civitas Social Housing (CSH)
- Triple Point Social Housing (SOHO)
- Regional REIT (RGL)
- Supermarket Income REIT (SUPR)
- Residential Secure Income (RESI)
- Impact Healthcare REIT (IHR)
- Warehouse REIT (WHR)
- LXi REIT (LXI)
- Tritax Big Box (BBOX)
- Tritax EuroBox (EBOX)
- TR Property Trust (TRY)
- Target Healthcare REIT (THRL)
- Value and Indexed Property Income (VIP)
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