Money Makers podcast: 27 Dec 2025

In this special, end of year edition of the Money Makers Investment Trusts Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook and winner of the AIC Best Broadcast Journalist Award (2024 and 2025), is joined by four guests for their comments on the year just gone and the outlook for 2026. Those guests are Ben Conway, James Carthew, Anthony Leatham, and Max King.

We would like to wish all of our listeners a Happy New Year for 2026. Thank you for listening in 2025 and we hope you join us throughout the new year as we continue to report on developments in the investment trusts sector.

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312: Ben Conway, James Carthew, Anthony Leatham, and Max King


0:00:24 – Looking back at 2025
0:04:37 – Investment Trusts Handbook 2026
0:05:32 – Ben Conway
0:13:49 – James Carthew
0:23:58 – A short break
0:25:04 – Anthony Leatham
0:36:31 – Max King
0:47:18 – Close
Recorded between 12-18 December 2025.

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Money Makers podcast: 09 Mar 2024

In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, reviews the week in the markets and speaks to Craig Baker, chair of the investment committee at the Alliance Trust, and James Carthew, director of QuotedData.

You can listen to this week’s podcast in full on the audio players below. Alternatively, you can subscribe and download it on most podcast channels including Soundcloud, Apple, Spotify, Google, and others, including now the Money Makers YouTube channel. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.

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Budget week

0:00:39 – Review of the week
0:01:49 – Corporate news, announcements, and results
0:02:42 – This week’s guests
0:06:49 – Money Makers Circle
0:07:29 – Q&A with Craig Baker

0:07:57 – Craig’s management approach
0:10:10 – The annual results
0:14:25 – Exposure to the Magnificent Seven and contributors to outperformance
0:18:24 – Style bias in the portfolio
0:21:08 – Departure of Ben Whitmore
0:23:22 – The UK equity market
0:25:06 – Concentration in global equity markets
0:28:29 – The importance of private investors
0:29:41 – Gearing
0:32:06 – Cost disclosure
0:33:46 – The outlook for global equities

0:35:06 – Q&A with James Carthew

0:35:24 – The markets so far this year
0:36:23 – The Budget
0:38:10 – Alliance Trust (ATST) and F&C Investment Trust (FCIT)
0:40:58 – RIT Capital (RCP)
0:44:13 – The renewables sector
0:50:42 – Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9)
0:52:52 – Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG)
0:56:42 – Bids for Abrdn Property Income (API)
0:59:45 – The Master Investor Show

1:00:59 – Close

Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:

  • BlackRock World Mining (BRWM)
  • Premier Miton Global Renewables (PMGR)
  • Bellevue Healthcare (BBH)
  • Alliance Trust (ATST)
  • F&C Investment Trust (FCIT)
  • Mobius Investment Trust (MMIT)
  • Tetragon Financial (TFG)
  • APAX Global Alpha (APAX)
  • Greencoat Renewables (GRP)
  • RIT Capital (RCP)
  • Asian Energy Impact Trust (AEIT)
  • Hipgnosis Songs Fund (SONG)
  • Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9)
  • GCP Asset Backed Income (GABI)
  • Triple Point Energy Transition (TENT)
  • Smithson (SSON)
  • Custodian Property Income REIT (CREI)
  • Abrdn Property Income (API)
  • Urban Logistics (SHED)
  • UK Commercial Property (UKCM)
  • Tritax Big Box (BBOX)
  • Abrdn China (ACIC)
  • Fidelity China Special Situations (FCSS)
  • SDCL Energy Efficiency Income Trust (SDCL)
  • NextEnergy Solar (NESF)
  • Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF)

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Disclosures about the editor’s personal holdings of investment trusts can be found here. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website (www.theaic.co.uk) and Doceo (doceo.tv). The producer of the podcasts is the brilliant Ben Gamblin – more details on him here.

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Money Makers podcast: 09 Dec 2023

In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, speaks to James Carthew, director of QuotedData, and Baroness Ros Altmann CBE about her recent Private Members Bill to address the cost disclosure issue in investment trusts.

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Another decent week for risk assets

00:39 – This week’s guests
01:21 – Money Makers Circle
02:10 – Review of the week
04:56 – Summary of results
06:08 – The Investment Trusts Handbook 2024
07:30 – Q&A with James Carthew

07:39 – Market developments
10:36 – Discussing individual trusts
27:40 – Selected results this week
32:49 – Prospects for a continuing Santa Rally

35:08 – Q&A with Baroness Altmann CBE

35:27 – The Private Members’ Bill
39:32 – What happens next?
45:27 – Timescale for a resolution
47:53 – Views of the AIC
50:23 – Transparency and accuracy in disclosure
57:40 – Impact of cost disclosure on derating

59:45 – Close

Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:

  • J.P.Morgan Japanese (JFJ)
  • Personal Assets Trust (PNL)
  • Monks Investment Trust (MNKS)
  • Templeton Emerging Markets (TEM)
  • Biopharma Credit (BPCR)
  • VinaCapital Vietnam Opportunity Fund (VOF)
  • Picton Property Income (PCTN)
  • European Opportunities Trust (EOT)
  • Residential Secure Income (RESI)
  • Ecofin US Renewables (RNEW)
  • Barings Emerging EMEA Opportunities (BEMO)
  • Finsbury Growth and Income (FGT)
  • Lindsell Train Investment Trust (LTI)
  • BlackRock Frontiers Investment Trust (BRFI)
  • Tritax Eurobox (EBOX)
  • Lowland (LWI)
  • Chrysalis (CHRY)

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Disclosures about the editor’s personal holdings of investment trusts can be found here. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website (www.theaic.co.uk) and Doceo (doceo.tv). The producer of the podcasts is the brilliant Ben Gamblin – more details on him here.

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Money Makers podcast: 21 Aug 2023

In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to James Carthew, director of QuotedData. We are grateful for the support of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, which enables us to keep the podcast free.

This edition of the podcast was recorded during the week ending Friday 18 August 2023, prior to the latest update from the Board of Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC) following recent press speculation. It has confirmed it is in advanced discussions with RI UK 1 Limited, a wholly owned indirect subsidiary of Realty Income Corporation, regarding a possible sale of the fund’s property portfolio. There is currently no certainty that a sale of the portfolio will take place, nor as to the final terms on which any such sale might be undertaken. At this time the Board is continuing to conduct its previously announced strategic review and will do so until further notice.

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No shortage of worries

00:44 – Review of the week
05:14 – Money Makers Circle
05:30 – This week’s guest
05:42 – Corporate news and announcements
11:43 – Summary of results
16:52 – Q&A with James Carthew

17:04 – The current state of affairs
20:10 – Riverstone Energy (RSE)
23:47 – Abrdn Asian trusts merger
26:50 – Long-term viability of Asian trusts
28:21 – ThomasLloyd Energy Impact (TLEI)
34:07 – Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC)
35:47 – Commercial property sector
38:37 – Renewable energy sector
42:37 – RIT Capital Partners (RCP)
44:06 – HG Capital Trust (HGT)
45:28 – The persistence of discounts

48:29 – Close

Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:

  • Ediston Property Investment Company (EPIC)
  • BH Macro (BHMG)
  • Baillie Gifford UK Growth (BHUK)
  • Baillie Gifford European Growth (BGEU)
  • Baillie Gifford Japan Trust (BGFD)
  • Riverstone Energy (RSE)
  • Aquila Energy Efficiency Trust (AEET)
  • ThomasLloyd Energy Impact (TLEI)
  • Abrdn New Dawn (ABD)
  • Asia Dragon Trust (DGN)
  • Witan Investment Trust (WTAN)
  • Georgia Capital (GCAP)
  • Temple Bar Investment Trust (TMPL)
  • Abrdn Asian Income Fund (AAIF)
  • Bluefield Solar Income Fund (BSIF)
  • Next Energy Solar Fund (NESF)
  • RIT Capital Partners (RCP)
  • HG Capital Trust (HGT)

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Disclosures about the editor’s personal holdings of investment trusts can be found here. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website (www.theaic.co.uk) and Doceo (doceo.tv). The producer of the podcasts is the brilliant Ben Gamblin – more details on him here.

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Money Makers podcast: 24 Jun 2023

In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, talks to James Carthew, former fund manager and current director of QuotedData, and Colette Ord, infrastructure and renewables analyst at Numis Securities.

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Base rate rise prompts fixed income weakness

00:29 – Review of the week
04:12 – This week’s guests
04:32 – Money Makers Circle
04:59 – Corporate news
07:10 – Selected results
13:05 – Q&A with James Carthew

13:30 – Impact of the base rate change on investment trusts
18:13 – Monks Investment Trust (MNKS)
21:03 – Abrdn Diversified Income and Growth (ADIG)
26:18 – Rockwood Strategic (RKW)
28:58 – Civitas Social Housing (CSH)
31:49 – Cordiant Digital Infrastructure (CORD)
35:05 – Investing in AI through investment trusts

37:54 – Q&A with Colette Ord

38:04 – Market reaction to the base rate rise
41:05 – Trust in the NAVs
43:27 – Using the wrong comparisons
46:05 – Trusts with minimal leverage while trading at significant discounts
48:31 – The impact of asset location
49:42 – Predatorial behaviours
52:59 – Lingering impacts of the windfall tax
55:33 – Liquidity issues and smaller trusts

59:24 – Close

Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:

  • Abrdn Diversified Income and Growth (ADIG)
  • Civitas Social Housing (CSH)
  • Princess Private Equity (PEY)
  • Global Smaller Companies Trust (GSCT)
  • Montanaro UK Smaller Companies (MTU)
  • Montanaro European Smaller Companies (MTE)
  • AEW UK REIT (AEWU)
  • Urban Logistics (SHED)
  • Triple Point Energy Transition (TENT)
  • JPMorgan Emerging Europe Middle East and Africa (JEMA)
  • Bankers Trust (BNKR)
  • Henderson Opportunities (HOT)
  • BlackRock Income and Growth (BRIG)
  • River and Mercantile UK Micro Cap (RMMC)
  • CC Japan Income and Growth (CCJI)
  • HICL Infrastructure (HICL)
  • Greencoat UK Wind (UKW)
  • International Public Partnerships (INPP)
  • Monks Investment Trust (MNKS)
  • Scottish Mortgage Trust (SMT)
  • SAINTS (SAIN)
  • Abrdn Diversified Income and Growth (ADIG)
  • Ediston Property (EPIC)
  • JPMorgan Multi-Asset Growth and Income (MATE)
  • Rockwood Strategic (RKW)
  • Civitas Social Housing (CSH)
  • Cordiant Digital Infrastructure (CORD)
  • Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9)
  • Manchester and London (MNL)
  • Polar Capital Technology Trust (PCT)
  • Allianz Technology Trust (ATT)
  • Chrysalis (CHRY)
  • Schroder Capital Global Innovation (INOV)
  • VH Global Sustainable Energy Opportunities (GSEO)
  • NextEnergy Solar Fund (NESF)
  • 3i Infrastructure (3IN)
  • HICL Infrastructure (HICL)
  • Aquila European Renewables (AERS)

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We are an independent research and publishing venture committed to providing high-quality investment information and resources. You can sign up below to be notified about the latest podcasts by email as soon as they become available.  Please note that the podcasts should not be regarded as personal financial advice, but are provided for information and background only. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our over 160 podcasts in the more than three years since launch.

Disclosures about the editor’s personal holdings of investment trusts can be found here. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website (www.theaic.co.uk) and Doceo (doceo.tv). The producer of the podcasts is the brilliant Ben Gamblin – more details on him here.

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Money Makers podcast: 11 Mar 2023

In this week’s edition of the Weekly Investment Trust Podcast, Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, speaks to James Carthew, director of QuotedData, and Steven Tredget, partner at Oakley Capital, the managers of the Oakley Capital Investments trust (OCI).

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Crashing failure for Silicon Valley Bank

0:00:29 – The week’s news
0:04:36 – Introducing this week’s guests
0:05:57 – Money Makers Circle
0:06:24 – Coming up next week
0:06:34 – Q&A with James Carthew

0:08:30 – Market sentiment
0:10:27 – Where will money be going?
0:12:32 – Results announcements
0:32:19 – Nick Greenwood’s departure from Premier Miton
0:35:05 – Henderson Opportunities Trust (HOT)
0:38:47 – AIC Conference
0:43:30 – Close

0:43:44 – Q&A with Steven Tredget

0:45:08 – Valuation doubts
0:53:26 – Effectiveness of share buy backs
0:55:47 – Constraints around the availability of cash
0:58:12 – Direct holdings

1:00:41 – Close

Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:

  • Oakley Capital Investments (OCI)
  • MIGO Opportunities Trust (MIGO)
  • F&C Investment Trust (FCIT)
  • Alliance Trust (ATST)
  • Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9)
  • Seraphim Space Investment Trust (SSIT)
  • US Solar Fund (USFP)
  • Strategic Equity Capital (SEC)
  • Henderson Opportunities Trust (HOT)

About Money Makers

We are an independent research and publishing venture committed to providing high-quality investment information and resources. You can sign up below to be notified about the latest podcasts by email as soon as they become available.  Please note that the podcasts should not be regarded as personal financial advice, but are provided for information and background only. We are very grateful for your continued support and the enthusiastic response to our nearly 150 podcasts in the more than two and a half years since launch.

Disclosures about the editor’s personal holdings of investment trusts can be found here. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website (www.theaic.co.uk) and Doceo (doceo.tv). The producer of the podcasts is the brilliant Ben Gamblin – more details on him here.

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Money Makers podcast: 26 Nov 2022

Jonathan Davis, editor of the Investment Trusts Handbook, is joined in this week’s edition of the Money Makers Weekly Investment Trust podcast by James Carthew of QuotedData; and also previews a discussion with Carlos Hardenberg, the lead manager of the Mobius Investment Trust (MMIT) – available in full for subscribers to the Money Makers Circle.

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A quiet week for the markets

00:45 – Review of the week
02:42 – Money Makers Circle
04:15 – James Carthew

06:15 – Fundraising
12:29 – Corporate news
31:35 – Windfall Profits Tax on renewable energy

39:19 – Q&A with Carlos Hardenberg (extract)
41:53 – Money Makers Circle
51:37 – Close

Trusts mentioned in this week’s podcast (with tickers) include:

  • Home REIT (HOME)
  • Digital 9 Infrastructure (DGI9)
  • AT85 Global Mid-Market Infrastructure Income
  • JPMorgan Russian Securities (JRS/JEMA)
  • Chrysalis Investments (CHRY)
  • The Renewables Infrastructure Trust (TRIG)
  • Long Term Assets
  • Convicton Life Sciences
  • NB Monthly Income (NBMI)

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Disclosures about the editor’s personal holdings of investment trusts can be found here. Our podcasts are also available on the Association of Investment Companies website (www.theaic.co.uk) and Doceo (doceo.tv). The producer of the podcasts is the brilliant Ben Gamblin – more details on him here.

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Editor’s notebook: meltdown

Stuart's latest profile looks at Murray International, the global equity income trust managed by the long serving Bruce Stout, whose concerns about the wisdom of US and European monetary policy are finally being vindicated. Having been away last week, I spared you my immediate thoughts on the inept handling of the UK government's mini-maxi-Budget (call it what you will), whose damaging effects will, I fear, continue to be felt for some weeks ahead. It has unfortunately made a difficult investment environment even harder. I will be posting a fuller Q3 market review shortly. You will also find h...

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